WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.080 What was your screen time like last week? Mine 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:07.760 was 2 hours 52 minutes a day on average. 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:12.000 Well, what if we could utilize that time towards sacred 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.680 or holy pursuits as opposed to doom scrolling? 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:19.760 Welcome to Compass Finding Spirituality in the Everyday. I'm your Host, 6 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.520 Ryan Dunn. 2 hours 52 minutes per day, 7 00:00:23.520 --> 00:00:27.280 that's not terrible, I guess. But still, it's almost three 8 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:31.000 hours of my day, every day spent staring into the little 9 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.790 glass glowing triangle. Now some of that time is meaningful. I'm 10 00:00:34.790 --> 00:00:38.350 connecting with people, staying informed, I'm doing work. But 11 00:00:38.350 --> 00:00:41.990 let's be honest, a lot of it is actually a little bit more mindless, 12 00:00:41.990 --> 00:00:45.590 isn't it? It's scrolling. Doom scrolling. Even the 13 00:00:45.590 --> 00:00:49.070 scrolling often triggers a stress response which 14 00:00:49.310 --> 00:00:53.150 sends cortisol and dopamine into our systems. And then dopamine 15 00:00:53.150 --> 00:00:56.630 specifically keeps us craving more. It's been called the 16 00:00:56.630 --> 00:01:00.450 molecule of more. And when we're swimming in dopamine, we we want 17 00:01:00.450 --> 00:01:03.970 novelty and surprise. And that ignites our need to keep 18 00:01:03.970 --> 00:01:07.650 scrolling or looking for fresh information or to 19 00:01:07.650 --> 00:01:11.410 find something else that's as triggering as something that we just saw, 20 00:01:11.490 --> 00:01:15.330 even if it's negatively triggering. And that's why we find that headlines 21 00:01:15.490 --> 00:01:18.930 centered on negative emotional responses tend to get more attention. 22 00:01:19.490 --> 00:01:23.330 Anyways, when we're scrolling on our screens, what's happening 23 00:01:23.330 --> 00:01:26.850 here is a feedback loop. We see a concerning post 24 00:01:27.430 --> 00:01:30.670 which ignites our cortisol receptors. Our brain 25 00:01:30.670 --> 00:01:34.070 registers a threat and then we scroll in hopes of 26 00:01:34.070 --> 00:01:37.750 clarity or control. And the brain is seeking dopamine. But instead 27 00:01:37.750 --> 00:01:41.430 there's more stress as we scroll, looking for something that feels rewarding. 28 00:01:41.430 --> 00:01:45.150 The loop is self reinforcing. Cortisol ramps up our 29 00:01:45.150 --> 00:01:48.470 anxiety. Dopamine rewards the scrolling behavior, 30 00:01:48.870 --> 00:01:52.470 so we just keep repeating it. Now of course, this isn't the only 31 00:01:52.470 --> 00:01:56.200 thing that that we do on our phones or screens. We do 32 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.920 lots of things there and we can use them to disrupt 33 00:02:00.240 --> 00:02:03.880 this stressing cycle and to redirect our attention 34 00:02:03.880 --> 00:02:07.600 and create neuropathways of positive reinforcement for things 35 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:11.440 like stillness and awareness. Our screen time 36 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.680 can be used to nurture our spirits. That's what 37 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.320 today's episode of Compass is all about. Turning your screen time 38 00:02:19.320 --> 00:02:23.110 into into soul time. I'm going to introduce you to a handful of apps 39 00:02:23.110 --> 00:02:26.830 that invite us into reflection, contemplation and 40 00:02:26.830 --> 00:02:30.430 prayer. Some are rich with content, some are beautifully 41 00:02:30.430 --> 00:02:34.070 simple, but all of them can help guide us towards moments 42 00:02:34.070 --> 00:02:37.870 of spiritual presence. Just a quick note, none of these apps are 43 00:02:37.870 --> 00:02:41.670 sponsors and I'm not getting any kind of affiliate benefit for recommending them. I'm 44 00:02:41.670 --> 00:02:45.350 just sharing tools that I've found useful on my own spiritual journey. 45 00:02:45.470 --> 00:02:49.310 And I think all of these apps are free, so some may have some additional 46 00:02:49.310 --> 00:02:53.110 content behind a paywall, but generally these are not heavily profit 47 00:02:53.110 --> 00:02:56.670 driven endeavors. They were designed to feed the spirits of users 48 00:02:56.670 --> 00:03:00.150 before they were utilized for profit. I'm not gonna name 49 00:03:00.150 --> 00:03:03.910 specific podcasts here. I know that some people will pop on a podcast and 50 00:03:03.910 --> 00:03:07.750 that can be a time of reflection and prayer for them. Personally, I fear 51 00:03:07.750 --> 00:03:11.590 that podcasts might just be a little bit too passive of 52 00:03:11.590 --> 00:03:15.210 an activity, though that's probably not a fully fair 53 00:03:15.210 --> 00:03:18.970 assessment. There are some that will likely invite listeners into 54 00:03:18.970 --> 00:03:22.770 some active contemplation, but I wanted to concentrate on apps 55 00:03:22.770 --> 00:03:26.090 that focus on inviting the user into some kind of 56 00:03:26.090 --> 00:03:29.930 active participation over what I see happening with 57 00:03:29.930 --> 00:03:33.410 most podcasts, which is a more passive form 58 00:03:33.730 --> 00:03:37.450 of information absorption. Right. Plus there are so 59 00:03:37.450 --> 00:03:41.050 many great podcasts out there that they could take over something like this, 60 00:03:41.050 --> 00:03:44.450 and I feel bad for having to make judgment calls about which ones to include 61 00:03:44.750 --> 00:03:48.030 and which ones to exclude. So before we talk apps though, 62 00:03:48.350 --> 00:03:52.190 let's talk about the why of doing this Now. Jesus modeled 63 00:03:52.510 --> 00:03:55.950 a rhythm of engagement and retreat, and he taught in public. 64 00:03:56.190 --> 00:04:00.030 He healed the sick. He fed crowds. The introverts are listening to 65 00:04:00.030 --> 00:04:03.310 this, they're already exhausted. So here's the good news. He also 66 00:04:04.030 --> 00:04:07.830 withdrew to quiet places to rest, reflect, and reconnect 67 00:04:07.830 --> 00:04:11.580 with God. In Mark 1:35, we read in 68 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:15.340 the morning while it was still very dark, he got up and went out 69 00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:18.660 to a deserted place, and there he prayed. In Luke 70 00:04:18.660 --> 00:04:22.420 5:16 mentions the same practice. We're told that Jesus would slip away 71 00:04:22.740 --> 00:04:25.940 to deserted places and pray. And around some of the most 72 00:04:25.940 --> 00:04:29.620 emotionally intense moments in his life, like feeding the 73 00:04:29.620 --> 00:04:33.140 5000 in Matthew 14 or just before his crucifixion, 74 00:04:33.460 --> 00:04:37.200 we learn that Jesus turned to solitude and prayer 75 00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:40.760 for clarity and strength. These moments weren't just about 76 00:04:40.760 --> 00:04:44.360 escape, they were about renewal, about grounding 77 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.960 in sacred presence, about creating space for discernment and 78 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.320 healing and connection. Now, modern life 79 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.160 doesn't make this kind of rhythm very easy. Since we're 80 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.920 constantly connected, we can often feel overwhelmed by trying to 81 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.720 add in something else. But just like rest is vital and a 82 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:06.480 workout routine, spiritual rest, this kind of rest that we encounter 83 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.720 through prayer and reflection or simply pausing, 84 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.520 is vital in our faith journeys. That's why we're exploring 85 00:05:13.520 --> 00:05:17.120 spiritual apps. Not because they replace faith or any kind of spiritual 86 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.720 practice that we might do in community or in a church, but because they can 87 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.520 help us carve out space for this renewal 88 00:05:24.760 --> 00:05:28.550 in the swirl of our everyday lives. So 89 00:05:28.550 --> 00:05:32.350 let's get to it. Let's look at some that can help. First app 90 00:05:32.350 --> 00:05:36.070 we're looking at is Everyday Sanctuary. This app is 91 00:05:36.070 --> 00:05:39.790 meant to be a five minute satisfying and sacred 92 00:05:40.030 --> 00:05:43.750 experience every day. It offers a short daily process that 93 00:05:43.750 --> 00:05:47.230 follows a five step rhythm, pause and find 94 00:05:47.230 --> 00:05:51.030 presence, reflect on scripture, reset our 95 00:05:51.030 --> 00:05:54.590 focus through purposeful breathing, explore gratitude, 96 00:05:55.440 --> 00:05:59.240 and then commit some time to praying for needs. A lot of it is left 97 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.640 up to the user in this app, meaning that there won't be a voice or 98 00:06:02.640 --> 00:06:06.360 text telling you what you should be experiencing during any given 99 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.120 step. It's just the prompts that are given and there's space then also at 100 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.960 the end to journal and you can email those entries to yourself through the 101 00:06:13.960 --> 00:06:17.760 app and then you have a written record of some of your experiences, which 102 00:06:17.760 --> 00:06:21.480 I find is actually kind of novel for these apps and pretty 103 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:25.280 cool. I'm a proponent of naming your gratitudes. I think this 104 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:28.480 is a tremendous way to break cycles of stress and 105 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.320 stuckness. And it's such a simple thing. People just think it's cheesy, but it 106 00:06:32.320 --> 00:06:35.960 is very meaningful. A lot of negative rumination dies 107 00:06:35.960 --> 00:06:39.600 in gratitude. So the fact that this app invites us to do that 108 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.400 daily is really helpful for me. It's particularly great 109 00:06:43.400 --> 00:06:46.680 if you're looking for structure without a sense of overwhelm 110 00:06:47.180 --> 00:06:50.540 and good news. If you want to learn more about this app Everyday 111 00:06:50.540 --> 00:06:53.820 Sanctuary, you can by listening to our episode with the 112 00:06:53.820 --> 00:06:57.420 creator Abigail Broca. That was episode 125 113 00:06:57.420 --> 00:07:01.220 back in January of 2024. App number two 114 00:07:01.220 --> 00:07:05.060 is called Insight Timer. Everyday Sanctuary gives us a 115 00:07:05.060 --> 00:07:08.900 repetitive formula every day right? And everyone gets the same prescription 116 00:07:08.900 --> 00:07:12.740 every day. Insight Timer, our second app here is a bit 117 00:07:12.740 --> 00:07:16.580 of a choose your own adventure. It's packed with thousands of guided 118 00:07:16.580 --> 00:07:19.980 meditations, including many with a spiritual or Christian 119 00:07:19.980 --> 00:07:23.580 perspective. It's kind of fun to explore around across the 120 00:07:23.580 --> 00:07:27.260 different perspectives. However, I'm not one to say that the only 121 00:07:27.260 --> 00:07:31.060 way to have a Christian spiritual experience is to be guided by a 122 00:07:31.060 --> 00:07:34.460 Christian. I was introduced to Insight Timer by my friend 123 00:07:34.540 --> 00:07:38.180 Jess Beelman and he's a good creator to follow on there. He 124 00:07:38.180 --> 00:07:41.860 brings a down to earth approach to sacred reflection. The app 125 00:07:41.860 --> 00:07:44.350 includes sleep aids, calming music, 126 00:07:44.750 --> 00:07:48.510 customizable meditation timers, and as you seek out 127 00:07:48.510 --> 00:07:51.710 more creators, you might just want to search for the word like Christ. 128 00:07:52.270 --> 00:07:55.470 It comes up with a pretty good list of introductory 129 00:07:55.790 --> 00:07:59.110 meditations and the meditations in this app are generally 130 00:07:59.110 --> 00:08:02.670 spoken word over ambient music and that's about 131 00:08:02.670 --> 00:08:06.470 it. So just know that the interaction that you're having here is all 132 00:08:06.470 --> 00:08:10.030 internal and meditations range anywhere from like 45 133 00:08:10.030 --> 00:08:13.600 seconds to 45 minutes. You get to choose app 134 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:17.200 three is called Lectio 365 or Lectio 135 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:20.960 365. Lectio 365. It's 136 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:24.400 inspired by the ancient practice of lectio divina, or 137 00:08:24.400 --> 00:08:28.160 sacred reading. It also utilizes a stepped 138 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.760 formula like everyday sanctuary. So 139 00:08:30.760 --> 00:08:34.000 Lectio365 opens with a moment of pause, 140 00:08:34.400 --> 00:08:37.880 then invites us to rejoice and reflect on a scripture 141 00:08:37.880 --> 00:08:41.510 reading. Then we ask for God's help and then we seek 142 00:08:41.510 --> 00:08:44.990 to yield to God's will. This app was developed by 143 00:08:44.990 --> 00:08:48.470 247 Prayer Movement and Lectio365 144 00:08:48.470 --> 00:08:51.990 offers morning and evening devotionals based on scripture 145 00:08:52.230 --> 00:08:55.590 and the audio version features these cool calming voices 146 00:08:55.750 --> 00:08:59.470 and reflective pacing. It kind of helps you slow down 147 00:08:59.470 --> 00:09:03.270 and then soak in the passage and really kind of moves you 148 00:09:03.270 --> 00:09:06.960 then to prayer. And you can read through for yourself if 149 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.160 you want. Like a self paced experience with Lectio 150 00:09:10.160 --> 00:09:13.920 365 or then the guided audio readings are anywhere from 151 00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:17.600 5 to 10 minutes. Usually there's a longer one in the morning, I've noticed, and 152 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:21.320 then a shorter one later in the day. App number 153 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:24.400 four is a pretty familiar one for most people because 154 00:09:24.400 --> 00:09:27.840 YouVersion is probably the most well known Bible app, 155 00:09:28.160 --> 00:09:31.880 but there's a lot under the hood here Besides like the 230 156 00:09:31.880 --> 00:09:34.960 different translations of the Bible that you can page through. 157 00:09:35.280 --> 00:09:39.020 YouVersion also offers hundreds of bio reading plans, 158 00:09:39.260 --> 00:09:42.860 many with reflections and prayers alongside them. Some 159 00:09:42.940 --> 00:09:46.460 are really more blog posty in tone, others are 160 00:09:46.460 --> 00:09:49.740 deeper, so you may have to do a little digging to find ones that really 161 00:09:49.740 --> 00:09:53.540 nourish your soul, but once you do, then they can be really powerful ways 162 00:09:53.540 --> 00:09:57.220 to stay rooted in scripture. My warning here though, is to be mindful 163 00:09:57.220 --> 00:10:00.380 about the content that you're picking up. When I was talking about 164 00:10:00.380 --> 00:10:03.900 podcasts, I mentioned being wary of just having someone 165 00:10:03.980 --> 00:10:07.700 else's lens of experience or interacting with scripture be your 166 00:10:07.700 --> 00:10:10.720 guide. Well, there are a lot of reading plans in 167 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:14.200 youversion that fall into that, where it's kind of like here's a piece of 168 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.800 scripture, here's how I feel about it, and that's the whole devotion. 169 00:10:18.040 --> 00:10:21.760 But the cool thing about youversion is the possibility that's 170 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:25.480 behind it. There are so many reading plans that you can find one that 171 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:29.240 works well for you. You just might have to hunt around a bit and then 172 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.200 try some out for a little bit before you decide whether or not you're going 173 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:35.320 to stick with it for the entirety of the plan, or if you just want 174 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.020 to move on. App number five is the Centering Prayer 175 00:10:39.020 --> 00:10:42.780 app. Guess what it's about? It's very simple and that's the point of 176 00:10:42.780 --> 00:10:46.300 it. It's a timer designed specifically for the centering 177 00:10:46.300 --> 00:10:50.060 prayer practice. The app includes background music as you're having 178 00:10:50.060 --> 00:10:53.780 your practice. It includes some scripture snippets 179 00:10:53.940 --> 00:10:57.300 and guidance for breath and posture. It's a great 180 00:10:57.300 --> 00:11:00.260 companion just for developing a habit of silent 181 00:11:00.500 --> 00:11:04.230 contemplative prayer. I'm not going to go into depth about centering prayer 182 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:07.710 here and check out the app for that. I do tend to talk a lot 183 00:11:07.870 --> 00:11:11.230 about centering prayer, as it has been incredibly meaningful 184 00:11:11.470 --> 00:11:15.270 in my own spiritual nourishment. And I did a full episode 185 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:19.070 on that too, way back in episode 40, which was recorded in June 186 00:11:19.070 --> 00:11:22.830 of 2020. That's kind of an interesting time to revisit. So 187 00:11:22.830 --> 00:11:26.630 if you want to dive into that little snapshot of history, go 188 00:11:26.630 --> 00:11:30.310 back to that one. Incidentally, when I'm not talking about Centering Prayer as a 189 00:11:30.310 --> 00:11:33.790 contemplative practice, I'm probably talking about Ignatian Examine instead. 190 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:37.950 I just discovered an app for adapting Ignatian 191 00:11:37.950 --> 00:11:40.830 Examen, but I haven't played with it yet, so we're just going to have to 192 00:11:40.830 --> 00:11:44.550 wait for a future episode on that one. App number six is 193 00:11:44.550 --> 00:11:48.270 called Pray as you Go. It's developed by the Jesuits in 194 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:51.590 Britain. This app offers some beautifully produced audio 195 00:11:51.590 --> 00:11:55.390 sessions. They feature scripture reflective music and the music can 196 00:11:55.390 --> 00:11:59.030 be really cool. It's not just droning, ambient stuff. And 197 00:11:59.030 --> 00:12:02.710 the app has guided prayer as well. It's truly meant to 198 00:12:02.710 --> 00:12:06.510 be taken on the go. So the audio sessions are meant to 199 00:12:06.510 --> 00:12:10.230 accompany you as you walk, or as you do your commute, 200 00:12:10.230 --> 00:12:13.310 or as you, I don't know, lay on your bed and wonder why people for 201 00:12:13.310 --> 00:12:16.790 so long have thought that textured ceilings were important to have. 202 00:12:17.190 --> 00:12:20.950 The app helps turn on the go moments into God with Me 203 00:12:20.950 --> 00:12:24.690 moments or Me with God moments. All right, I'll mention a few more apps 204 00:12:24.690 --> 00:12:28.370 that I've not spent time with but might be worthy of consideration for this 205 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:31.970 pursuit. They include Abide Hallow and 206 00:12:31.970 --> 00:12:35.650 Soul Time. Soul Rest is a neat 207 00:12:35.730 --> 00:12:39.490 online app and it works really well on desktop. Pretty much everything 208 00:12:39.490 --> 00:12:43.170 else that I've mentioned is going to be phone based, but 209 00:12:43.570 --> 00:12:46.850 Soul Rest delivers meditations for your desktop. 210 00:12:47.170 --> 00:12:50.830 Many are from YouTube, and it's cool because you can just have it do 211 00:12:50.830 --> 00:12:54.670 a random meditation if you want to. So in the middle of your workday 212 00:12:54.750 --> 00:12:58.430 you feel like having that sacred rest. Just pop open 213 00:12:58.430 --> 00:13:02.070 the app and hit the random button. Or if you're coming up 214 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:05.750 against a big project, you can hit the panic button that they also offer and 215 00:13:05.750 --> 00:13:09.430 get a guided meditation that's going to disrupt the downward 216 00:13:09.430 --> 00:13:13.150 spiral or your runaway thoughts. And I thought that meditation, the 217 00:13:13.150 --> 00:13:16.760 panic Button one was really well done. One more 218 00:13:16.760 --> 00:13:20.560 recommendation that I have and it's not a contemplative app, but 219 00:13:20.560 --> 00:13:24.200 it's really fun and I found it to be a refreshing way to 220 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.480 engage in some interactive kind of prayer. It's called Text 221 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:31.040 Jesus and it's simply an AI based interactive 222 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.920 conversation with a Christ centered algorithm. So I suppose 223 00:13:34.920 --> 00:13:37.600 that's not really prayer because I'm not 224 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.880 addressing the Almighty directly, although I can say 225 00:13:41.880 --> 00:13:45.240 that I am indirectly. I do use this for gleaning some 226 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.940 scriptures that are relevant to situations that I've encountered or 227 00:13:48.940 --> 00:13:52.660 some anxieties that I'm carrying. I shared the feeling that 228 00:13:52.660 --> 00:13:56.180 I was disappointing some people around me and Text 229 00:13:56.180 --> 00:13:59.540 Jesus came back with assurances that God's love is not 230 00:13:59.540 --> 00:14:03.300 dependent on my successes or my failures and that God 231 00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:07.140 sees my efforts in heart. And that was a nice reassurance at the 232 00:14:07.140 --> 00:14:10.620 time. And the whole app can be kind of fun in a way that 233 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:14.380 can be kind of like getting some Jesus inspired 234 00:14:14.540 --> 00:14:18.300 responses to journal entries that you might be putting down. It's 235 00:14:18.300 --> 00:14:21.940 not theological advice, but it can offer comfort, it can offer 236 00:14:21.940 --> 00:14:25.660 reassurance, or even, just as I like to look at it, a gentle 237 00:14:25.660 --> 00:14:29.100 nudge towards grace. That's what I feel when I'm using it anyway. 238 00:14:29.420 --> 00:14:32.700 So is there an app that will solve your 239 00:14:32.700 --> 00:14:36.540 spiritual challenges? Well, of course there isn't. These are just tools. 240 00:14:36.540 --> 00:14:40.390 But the good ones can help us create space, they can help us build some 241 00:14:40.390 --> 00:14:44.070 rhythms, and they can open us up to God's presence in the midst of 242 00:14:44.070 --> 00:14:46.590 our day. If you're feeling spiritually dry, 243 00:14:46.990 --> 00:14:50.390 distracted, disconnected, or like you just need a 244 00:14:50.390 --> 00:14:54.230 disruption for good, maybe trying one of these apps is going to help 245 00:14:54.230 --> 00:14:57.390 you reawaken some joy, peace, or attentiveness. 246 00:14:58.110 --> 00:15:01.830 Also, I would really like to hear from you. There's an app that's been 247 00:15:01.830 --> 00:15:05.630 helpful on your spiritual journey. 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Until next time, take care. 258 00:15:43.790 --> 00:15:45.310 Keep exploring peace.